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[–]skyboundduck 59 points60 points  (3 children)

Have you considered expanding this to 30k words and finding a publisher? 😅

[–]eight-hundred[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

[–]skyboundduck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😅😅😅

[–]Acceptable-Corgi3720 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Really good post. I too am a wanderer in search of a "system" and have definitely been too caught up in the details.

[–]bean___machine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Great post! Thanks for putting all this together. The unsexy truth is still something that I find myself struggling to internalize, no matter how much I feel I already know this. Well-worded.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

truth! I am one of those people who peaked at 16-18 (literally the most wildly productive/prolific I've ever been in my life - one teacher even called me a machine). My routine was simple, nap for 15 minutes after school/ extracurriculars/ responsibilities, do my homework, review my notes from that day and a few days before if there was time. Sometimes if something was really confusing, I'd write over my pencil notes in pen and on the third read, I'd use highlighter. I also meditated alot because my family was religious, went to bed at 11 PM everyday, didn't really care about popularity/cute clothes, but oddly enough was probably the most well liked I've ever been in my life. I also would wake up around 5:30/6 if I had a big test to review my notes but that was pretty much it. It was before smartphones dominated our lives as well.

After that, I wanted to be MORE productive than I was in high school because the stakes were higher in college. I was so afraid of being behind and not having enough time to do things that I wouldn't actually focus on the content when studying or doing homework. I kept trying to figure out how to be more organized (someone once told me I was so smart that if I was more organized I wouldn't have to study - oh boy were they wrong). Honestly, if I just stuck to my old habits, I would have been 1000% fine.

literally 12 years later I'm studying for a professional exam and I'm seeing myself slowly transition into the same person. I lose myself in my work (generally speaking), time block as I feel like I need to, make organic decisions on what to study based on mood and energy. I leave my phone in another room while working. Am I cramping and exhausted? Time to listen to a lecture in bed. Am I hyperactive and bouncing off a wall? Time to listen to dance music and do some problems/mock exams. Outside of the additional use of a pomodoro timer and apps that provide study materials from the comfort of your phone and an excel tracker for study work (uncomplicated things that are more commonplace just because of the times), my study schedule is pretty much the same. People gotta just KISS - keep it simple *******.

[–]sanctuariesman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Silently, and all by myself, I arrived to the same conclusion just a few weeks ago, and it felt liberating: it is good to know what methods, systems, strategies, and tactics are out there to deal with our inner desires of achievement and accomplishments. However, at the end of the day, clarity and coherence ar the ones that build the pathway to progress, and they only come from self reflection. If one can find their preferred way to visualize progress, one is ready to start making it.

[–]CheesingmyBrainsOut 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I believe 99% of you struggling with your productivity need to use your phone and apps less, and this very complicated workflow that is marketed to sell courses and cohort spots is simply the extreme end of productivity porn.

As you point out, the majority of people would benefit most from just using their phone, and specifically the internet, way less. They likely have internet addictions. That's why they're posting about it on reddit and looking for new productivity schemes, it's a dopamine rush. But, it can be an ordeal in itself just to break this addiction.

I try to work every day, as early in the morning as possible, without looking at my phone and keeping it as silent as possible (allowing certain people to get past Do Not Disturb) and I try to be as consistent as possible in doing "x" hours of work every morning without interruption.

I do this too and put it in another room. And generally I don't have notifications for any apps, and download addictive apps any time I need to use them. For example, I go on Instagram once per week, and download and delete. The extra step of downloading makes me question whether I actually need it. On my laptop I have a couple tools that block websites during certain hours, which helps, and eventually becomes habit.

When I'm on top of this, and when I'm on top of 2-3 consistent habits (exercise, sleep, no binge drinking), I'm probably 100% more productive. Any other system won't even come close to this.

[–]Kekiman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s why I think the original Bullet Journal Method is amazing. There is no distraction and all you have is a pen and paper. You have enough structure to keep you organized while at the same time almost unlimited flexibility.

And I think the real benefit of bullet journaling comes from the philosophy behind the system. I would encourage anyone to read the bullet journal method book if they are interested in the system.

I, too, have been obsessed with productivity apps since the start of the pandemic but at the start of this year I decided to give bullet journal a chance and it has been very effective. I still go back and forth between digital apps and bullet journal occasionally but have largely stuck with bullet journal for the most part.

It doesn’t allow me to do the most work but the most important work. And that is the purpose behind the system and philosophy.

As Ryder Carroll said “its intentionality disguised as a productivity system”

[–]sheva_mytra 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great! Thnx for sharing.

[–]GlendaRoyhorder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with the sentiment expressed in this post

Productivity content and gurus often overcomplicate things, but in reality, the simplest changes can make the biggest impact

It's important to remember that everyone's definition of productivity is unique, and we shouldn't get caught up in the endless loop of consuming content and chasing perfection

Focus on what works for you and make small, consistent improvements every day.

[–]Professor_Dr_Dr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Underrated post

[–]s87afru6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing post. Hits the nail on the head.

[–]cdaviddav 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Why was this post deleted?

[–]eight-hundred[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is it deleted? I got a notification for this comment

[–]cdaviddav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read your content but would like to read it again and make a little summary.

[–]LeadingAdvisor_2074 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agree - no shortcuts exist and small tweaks often have the largest impact because you actually stick with them and work on them consistently.

It is also often forgotten that once someone becomes "a productivity celebrity" as their full-time job, their tools, views, and daily problems are so far away from most of their fans that their productivity hacks have very little practical value.

Great post, lot of thought went into it!

[–]1nfinitezer0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good post.

I think one thing that you missed is: rather than giving your money to false gurus who tell you what to do - you could pay someone to help make sure you do it. Like me, I'm too busy doing my own thing and helping other people to become an influencer & content creator.

I have learned lots from most of whom you've mentioned. Never given Tiago a cent tho! The PARA is a good upgrade for a researcher/knowledge-worker like me, but you're absolutely right that the data management and curation part of it all is wayyyyy too much for most people. I learned most of what he teaches directly from mentors in academia (since that's where most of it evolved and was necessary, pre-computers even).

Cal Newport's course with Scott Young on career advancement certainly has kept me interested - but prolly mostly because I get a lot of post-academics and career-related coaching clients. Scott Young's blog has some juicy bits, but yeah, prolly not worth getting the book.

Absolutely send money to content creators that help you. But don't get sucked into the hype. There is no magic fix. But, having someone on your team to make sure that you put in the hours, and trouble-shoot the challenges with extra perspectives and supports can go a long way. And it's more fun to not have to do it all alone either.

This is not a sales pitch from me tho - please don't contact me, unless you're a former gifted kid who feels stuck because of an acute phase or chronic procrastination. That's my speciality, everyone else is better off reading through post histories and blog posts until they find a good fit for themselves.

[–]Free_Researcher_5 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Altruistic and uncommercialised productivity content production is unproductive.

[–]Nihilenium 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post - thanks!

[–]dohiit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post and thank you

[–]Valuable-Observer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly what I needed to read. Thank you for sharing this post.

[–]_vemm 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree and am skeptical of pretty much all productivity media--especially in that I see people using it as an excuse to procrastinate!

I do wish you hadn't directed the idea of perfection being unattainable to "younger people" - - I assure you, older people have this too.

[–]eight-hundred[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair. I was thinking a lot about the high school or college kids who I tend to believe make up most of the demographic on these particular YT channels, who have the least "life experience" to know otherwise. I agree with you!

[–]vclouder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome post, well said u/eight-hundred

[–]ricardonevesmusic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's true.

All these people just want to sell you something.

Sometimes on key videos that could generate discussion/comments between people.

They will just disable the comment section in order to prevent someone from suggesting other productivity methods/systems.

Found that in the GTD YouTube channel, but I bet this happens with other channels as well.

I don't know why they do this, but perhaps they don't know any better, or most likely, maybe their only goal and means of making money is via converting you into a sale (in other words, getting you to buy their products).

Trust yourself, you don't need much.

Maybe a task/action list, is all you need.

Make one everyday or every night before going to sleep and use it the next day to be more productive.

I think that the simpler the tools are, the better.

Enough of setting up complex systems.

Pick one simple tool like a daily task/action list, tick items as you go, and be more productive every day!

Hope this helps.

Best of luck to you all.